They say, “It is truly amazing how normal you are for someone with your background.” And I just try to be that – normal. I don’t- I do- I actually feel that if I let it affect me badly, then those dreadful people who did all this to us – have won! So… why let them? …I think that’s probably at the back of it, yes. And also, the fact that… so many members of my family died…
Oh, aunts and uncles and grandparents and… I have actually got a- a list that was printed off from the synagogue in Vienna, which we visited. And they have everybody on that list who died- who was from Vienna, who died. And there are ten people on it. And I think the- if- if I didn’t make the most of my life, they all died in vain. So… I would feel so guilty if I just became a, a layabout and… hadn’t tried.