So I trooped off to the Quaker office and discovered about the Kindertransport… which of course all the English religious communities were represented. The non-Jewish things – activities – were centralised by the Quakers who had an office in Vienna. And there, the first person I met was a beautiful young woman called Barbara Ward, later Lady Jackson of Glossop [Lodsworth], editor of the Economist… eventually. But she was there representing some Catholic refugee organisation. …And I had no idea who she was, but I mean except here was an English Catholic representing something to do with refugee aid. And I was interviewed, and after that inevitably my memory goes blank. But I mean… this was… early November or mid-November 1938. And the first Kindertransport train left less than a month later. It is quite incredible, how quickly and efficiently the thing was organised. It may have had something to do with the fact that the home secretary of the day, Sir Samuel Hoare, was a Quaker. I think that might- because otherwise, I mean- Kristallnacht was on the 9th of November, the first Kindertransport train left Berlin I believe on the 2nd of December. So squaring the British government, squaring the British Parliament, making the arrangements with the Nazi authorities – all that inside one month. It is barely believable, but it did happen.