And when the war broke out between Japan and America they put the Americans and British into camps. And the ones that were neutral had an armband with an ‘N’ and they thought we were their friends being German and they said ‘Will you celebrate our victories with us?’ Till the Germans told them that we were not their friends, we were their enemies. But they didn’t want to put us into camps any more case they had to feed all these British and Americans so they put us in a ghetto where we couldn’t go out. But we had to fend for ourselves.