There was a decree that the German children from homes – I was in a children’s home [having left her mother in Rivesaltes by then] – had to go back to the camp… right? And then we were, the reason why we were supposed to be on the list to be deported with my mother. But people have implored my mother to leave us behind. And she… relented, and said she’d go by herself because she knew her fate was the east – and that was death. So I mean she gave us life twice.