I think, when I was about …twelve or thirteen I began to – or even before that – I began – perhaps earlier – I began to realise what had happened, and learn about what had happened, with the Nazis and so on. Fully. Perhaps I was even younger than that. And I decided that if evil men in politics one can do such dreadful things, maybe in politics one can also do other things for the better. Don’t leave, don’t leave politics only to evil men. So I was passionately interested in politics in my teens, when most of my contemporaries, you know, didn’t give it a thought. And I think that – that passionate interest stayed with me.