And so my father decided that we are not staying in Europe. He’s included Britain in this. He said, “He’s too strong. Hitler’s too strong… He- he walked over Chamberlain, and Daladier, the French Minister”, and did everything possible to to leave. The only two places came, came up as possibilities were Uruguay and Shanghai. And Shanghai came up first. So, off we went. It was just around the Christmas holiday time and we went on a- to Marseilles. Oh, I have to say something. The Jewish community advised- got my mother to sign a piece of paper to say that she’s going to Shanghai against their advice. Because it’s a war zone. Which partly was true.