My family were Germans who happened to be Jewish. Not like a lot of other families particularly from the East, who were Jews who happened to live in Lithuania or Poland or somewhere. There was quite a difference. And of course when Hitler first came around, my father and, and his colleagues who were all- served in the German Army in the First World War, and were awarded all sorts of medals, didn’t think, “No, this man with- with the moustache is not going to hurt us” – until Crystal Night. Then they realised that there was no hope for them in Germany, because the country became a lawless country, as far as Jews were concerned. Jews hadn’t done anything wrong, but they could be, you know, denigrated and beaten up in the street and this sort of thing.