And somehow I got to know them [the Heaton family] and I just- they had- they had their home as well as their studio where they sold paintings and prints right in the centre of the village where it still is now to this day. And… And they were- they were members of- of ‘Moral Re-Armament’. And I was- I used to sit with them while they listened to God and things like that. And I also- I loved going to Grasmere Church. I dragged my mother to the church on Sunday evenings. I love- you know, I can sing- I knew every single – and I still know, not by heart, but – every- every hymn. And absolutely loved going to Grasmere Church. [laughs] And you know, she’d- I dragged her along and she came. [laughs] So I was, you know- that was my- the most religious period of my life.