My mother decided she must take action. She got false papers. Because I was rather fond of chattering she said ‘You’ve got tooth-ache, so I’ve got to tie up your jaw.’ So I won’t talk when we go on the train. She took me into the country and handed me over to this organisation who handed me over to this peasant family. They lived in a semi-underground thatched cottage with tiny windows. They had pigs, sheep, geese & chickens. I said ‘My mother knows best; if she says it’s good for me that’s how it will be.’

One day I was wearing short trousers & the woman looked at my leg, saw this this rash & declared it’s typhoid. She went into to the local town & asked me to pack up my things. And she took me and then handed me back to this organisation who sent me back to Budapest. My mother found this children’s home & there I caught tapeworms, an awful condition. So I was sent back to my mother & I understand that 2 or 3 days afterwards, the Germans or the Hungarians came & took the children – the Jewish children – and shot them. From that home.