It was in the night – bang, bang, bang, bang on the wall of the cellar. Suddenly a hole appeared. A Russian soldier came in, with bread. He was filthy. Nobody spoke Russian but I remember what he said [she mimics ‘speaking’ silently]. We understood why, because the German soldiers were marching on the street. So first 1 soldier, then 2 & then we saw guns. Then we learned the word, ‘chasy, chasy’ which meant ‘watches’. Because the soldiers came & took the watches from people who had wristwatches because that was their most important thing in life: to own watches. Soldiers, you could see them: 4,5,6,7,8 watches on their arms. That was a thing. What I don’t remember – I was too young to remember – that lots of soldiers raped young women there. But that I don’t remember. I was just- Later on, I was just told that it happened.